These are awesome. Great flavor, huge plants, and an excellent keeper which ripens well off the vine as well (important in short damp climates like here in the Pacific Northwet). Listen to the commenter who said "the leaves on these always curl" - they looked so sad early in the spring that I moved them away from the rest of my tomatoes and almost threw them out. But then they took off and overtopped even my 5' cages, LOADED with clusters of fruits.